Go. We didnt say, We cant do a Christian song.'. Santa Clarita journalist and Grammy nominee Stephen K. Peepleswas raised by career newspaper journalists and music-lovers in Miami and Los Angeles. So, we were The Byrds doing a country album and we were gonna remain The Byrds beyond that, so it was just a side journey there. Chris & Connie Hillman speak about their life and careers in the music industry Watch on 0 comments 100% Upvoted Log in or sign up to leave a comment Log In Sign Up Sort by: best no comments yet Be the first to share what you think! Tambourine Man the Byrds, folk-rock. The late Tom Petty said: Chris was a true innovator the man who invented country rock. As songwriter multi- Instrumentalist, Chris Hillman, of the legendary Byrds, releases his new book, and shares with us why he converted to the Greek Orthodox religion. Connie Hillman. A time to laugh, a time to weep.". But I thought the album in itself, the stuff not just me, but what David was writing, Renaissance Fair and Everybodys Been Burned and things like that I thought we were really going in an interesting direction. Want to contact Connie Pappas Hillman? We didn't think twice about it. Whats next for you? A time to be born, a time to die. What critics failed to realize, said Byrds co-founder Chris Hillman, was that covering the Pete Seeger classic was a logical move for musicians steeped in American roots music. 2023 www.timesrecordnews.com. We didn't say, 'We can't do a Christian song.'". Eventually, Hillmans demons attacked his life and music. I was making choices that contributed to my restlessness and unhappiness. But yeah, I loved those albums, I thought they were pretty good, really. Cause I felt buried, buried alive. "I think that I had to go through all of those steps," saidHillman. Subscribe to Peeples YouTube channelfor more exclusive behind-the-scenes interviews. The Byrds' classic "Turn! Turn! You speak at colleges around the country. My long-held internal anger was reaching its highest point as my father's suicide continued to haunt me. Catch Hillmans virtual interview with the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame about Time Between, which streamed on the Halls YouTube and Facebook channels on Wednesday, May 26, 2021, along with a chat with Marty Stuart. Hillman and this writer have crossed paths professionally a few times in the past (as noted in Part 1), and the time flew as our scheduled 10-minute interview ran longer than 20 minutes. The late Tom Petty said: "Chris was a true innovator the man who invented country rock. So much of that self-destructiveness, I now realize, was rooted in anger. Rather than offering a tell-all about sex, drugs and rock n roll, Hillman focuses on lessons he learned along the way and his love for the musicians who, flaws and all, helped him. Every time the Eagles board their private jet, Chris at least paid for the fuel.". Facebook-f Instagram Spotify Itunes Amazon. Im driving with my wife and [it was] Wynonna Judd. Well, that was holding him back, Stephen. Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Chris Hillman covered a wide range of subjects in two February 2021 interviews with this writer for a feature spotlighting the singer, songwriter, and musicians celebrated autobiography, Time Between: My Life as a Byrd, Burrito Brother and Beyond.. It was so sweet of her to do that. YouTube Well, you know, she works quite well with [book publicist] Cary Baker, I must say. Find your friends on Facebook. Souther] and how you finally exited that, what role faith and family played in that.. Tambourine Man. I liked all of them, and thats a terrible answer to your question. In this chapter of her career, Connie was one of the few women in the music industry to hold such an impressive series of positions. Peeples: And then three more with Herb: Bakersfield Bound, Way Out West, and Edwards Barn. What is it about you guys thats so simpatico? Hillman: And, I remember Tom sitting, telling John, he says, Hey, go for the solo. John was so used to overdubbing, and Tom says, No, no, no, just play the solo. by And we went out and we did it in about 30 minutes, meaning, fully, with solo. He is a senior fellow at the Overby Center at the University of Mississippi. They are so good. So there you go. 2023 Inkandescent Inc. Inkandescent PR + Publishing Co., www.Inkandescent.us. What critics failed to realize, said Byrds co-founder Chris Hillman, was that covering the Pete Seeger classic was a logical move for musicians steeped in American roots music. "With the Byrds, we went right to that well. The Golden State Boys lineup was Hal and Leon Poindexter, Don Parmley, Herb Rice, and Harry Kniss in 1962 when they recorded Always Dreaming b/w Wicked Woman for the Shamrock label. Hillman began her career working for John's longtime agent, Howard Rose, eventually becoming Executive Vice President of The Rocket Record Company, joining John Reid (Elton's former manager). Email "Where did all of our music come from? Turn!" What critics failed to realize, said Byrds co-founder Chris Hillman, was that covering the Pete Seeger classic was a logical move for musicians steeped in American roots music. Gram really was a folk singer, too. The phrase country-rock. You mentioned in the book that you werent really crazy with being kind of referred to as the architect or one of the architects of country-rock. SOURCE Constant Communications Corporation, Cision Distribution 888-776-0942 Staff Me Up is the #1 site for industry networking and up-to-date credit information. He was one of the first artists interviewed for the project; his wife, Connie Pappas Hillman, was invaluable in gathering artifacts and information for the exhibition. And I still find myself asking why.". TERRY MATTINGLY Hillman, 76, provided more detail about how jazz legend Miles Davis helped The Byrds land their first record deal with his label, Columbia, in fall 1964; how he overcame his early shyness on stage; the first Manassas sessions with producers Ron & Howie Albert at Criteria Studios in Miami in late 1971, including the outtake "Panhandle Rag" with And wed always sort of dabble in country stuff. "Time Between" opens with a scene connecting these themes, when their California home was threatened by a 2017 brush fire. He was a key player on Hillman's "Bidin' My Time," and joined Hillman, Pedersen, and Jorgensen to play a packed-to-the-rafters, call-the-Fire-Marshall show at the Troubadour on October 23, 2017, a bittersweet affair celebrating the album's as well as paying tribute to Petty, who had died on October 2. Go, go, go, come on. Get the best and latest industry news, data, new artist signings, insider commentary and more, delivered right to your inbox! All Rights Reserved. We cut Porter Wagoners Satisfied Mind, big hit for him in the late 50s, and we cut it on the second album in 1965. Read more about our Truly Amazing Woman of the Month. She was later appointed Executive VP of John Reid Enterprises, co-managing Elton John, Bernie Taupin, Queen, Kiki Dee and Carole Bayer Sager. Sign up for the official chris hillman newsletter! Part 1 of the feature (published April 26) includes an introduction, an extensive biographical profile, and a transcript of our first conversation about the book, conducted via Zoom that February day. See the About section at stephenkpeeples.com. Based in the Santa Clarita Valley just north of L.A., Peeples was the award-winning Online Editor for The Signal newspapers website from 2007-2011. Songs about struggle, glory, sacrifice and faith were common in early '60s folk concerts. 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What do you think about that? Hillman grew up near San Diego in an interfaith home Jewish and Presbyterian in which strong values were important, but not organized religion. Were you a rock fan as a young girl? In fact, it was shaped, too. Because, first, we do Bob Dylans Mr. And I meant that, every word of it. "Time Between". Hillman: Thank you, God bless you, Walk Right Back. Were singin it out in the studio between takes and setting up and Tom runs out, We gotta cut that right now. I went, What? He says, Youve got to do this right now; its fresh in you. And thats where Tom was at as a producer; he was catching that emotion, he could see that. Author:Stephen K. Peeples The shows will include songs from all the groups Chris has been in, and hell read excerpts from his memoir while introducing key songs along the way. The rest is music history. I think thats one of the best lines, or what was the other line? Seems like everybodys got an answer and nobodys got a plan. And then your 1980s acoustic quartet with Perkins and Bernie and Jerry Scheff. Tony was a fantastic guitarist, as we know. For starters, the lyrics came from the Book of Ecclesiastes, noting "there is a season, and a time for every purpose, under Heaven. Songs about struggle, glory, sacrifice and faith were common in early 60s folk concerts. [A little more] Anyway, thats it. We didnt think twice about it. Connie Pappas Hillman (worked for Elton), Elton John, and Glenn Frey Elton John, Connie Pappas Hillman (worked for Elton), and Glenn Frey Newspaper ad and concert poster Day on the Green Eagles concert 1975 Newspaper ad in the San Francisco Examiner (San Francisco, CA) - June 15, 1975 1975 "Day on the Green" schedule, per Wikipedia Credit Connie Pappas Hillman / TOM LOUNGES with CHRIS HILLMAN and HERB PEDERSEN backstage in late 2019 at Acorn Theatre in Three Oaks, MI. White church, black church, the music all came from church," saidHillman, in a recent interview. Blues and gospel. Peeples: You know, the connection with Connie has been your stability. All rights reserved. A time to plant, a time to reap. Hes a very funny man and hes ever so talented. For the last 43 years, Ms. Hillman served in various capacities within the Elton John corporate structure, most recently serving as North American tour producer (1982-2016) and that included co-production of all the Face to Face tours with Elton John and Billy Joel (1994 through 2010). Where are you, Stephen? Satan I sure know your sign, and this feeling deep inside, makes we wanna shrivel up and die. Id love to see that. Turn! was the title of the album. Connie Pappas Hillman For the last 43 years, Ms. Hillman served in various capacities within the Elton John corporate structure and has played an integral role in the rock star's domestic. Thanks again. Hillman also met music-business professional Connie Pappas, whom he married in 1979. Hillman: I have much more appreciation for it now, and I dont know if its because people really got into it years later, but when we did that [2018 Sweetheart of the Rodeo 50th anniversary] tour with Marty Stuart and Roger McGuinn, we didnt change anything; we did the same songs off the album, but we played them better and we sang them better, I thought. Finally, I said, Our shelf life is expiring.. Peeples: Shes a pretty good publicist, too. Hillman wasnt a Christian at that time but found it natural to use religious language when asking big questions, since that was normal in bluegrass and country culture. Turn!" Peeples: One last thing: Can you please do me a favor? I think thatd be great. Bluegrass, country and gospel themes played a larger role as Hillman began writing songs for the Byrds and his later bands. Your Message. We stayed within that premise. Hillman: It was. Hillman, 76, provided more detail about how jazz legend Miles Davis helped The Byrds land their first record deal with his label, Columbia, in fall 1964; how he overcame his early shyness on stage; the first Manassas sessions with producers Ron & Howie Albert at Criteria Studios in Miami in late 1971, including the outtake Panhandle Rag with former Burrito bandmates Byron Berline and Al Perkins, and Berlines special nickname for Chris; Stephen Stills gift of a rare 1924 Gibson Lloyd Loar F5 mandolin, and invitation to co-found the band (Hillman also co-produced the Manassas double album and the follow-up Down the Road with Stills and drummer Dallas Taylor); the guitar-playing and songwriting tips he learned from Stills; working with the Alberts again on the second Manassas studio album, Down the Road, then Hillmans first solo album Slippin Away (1974, after he fired original producer Bob Johnston), and the McGuinn, Clark & Hillman album (1979); and Hillmans overview of his West Coast country-bluegrass influences, including a special encounter he and Desert Rose Band colleague-duo partner-producer Herb Pedersen shared with Buck Owens, one of their musical heroes. With minutes to pack, Hillman grabbed two beloved musical instruments, family photos, crucial papers, the family dog, Daisy, and Orthodox icons from a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and Mount Sinai. ", In one 1977 song, "Clear Sailin'," he sang: "Yes, I've turned my back on you Jesus, and I hope you understand. Special thanks to Connie Pappas-Hillman and Cary Baker/Conqueroo, and to Rory Aronsky for the transcription. didn't sound like anything else on the radio when it hit No. When typing in this field, a list of search results will appear and be automatically updated as you type. Arguably the pioneer of the genre known as Country Rock, hehas carved a permanent niche in the history of contemporary American music through his work with such notable bands as The Byrds, The Flying Burrito Brothers and the Desert Rose Band. Satan, I sure know your sign, and this feeling deep inside makes me wanna shrivel up and die. Just play it. Family (1) Spouse Connie Pappas (1979 - present) (2 children) Trade Mark (2) At the same time, he was surrounded by talented Christians, including pedal-steel maestro Al Perkins, Eagle Bernie Leadon, songwriting partner Steve Hill and Byrds co-founder Roger McGuinn, who had become an evangelical Christian. - Fernado Fazzari, Sol Franci Sign Up. For more information about Chris Hillman, and to order an autographed copy of Time Between, visit chrishillman.com. She really has been. Well try to make the most of it here. And stay tuned for our video and podcast interview between Connie and rising rock star Malka Russell coming soon to Inkandescent Women magazine! 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Our offices do not accept unsolicited material: lyrics, poetry, recordings, or items for signature. Fantastic. After becoming an evangelical, Hillman joined his wife in Orthodox Christianity in 1997. There was the old, If only I hadnt done that or I hadnt have done this, one time Yes, but I think God put me in each of those places, and each time, I had to learn and to move forward so I could get to where I am now.. SDA Foundation / San Dieguito Alumni Association, the video of the induction ceremony is here, SDA Foundation / San Dieguito Alumni Association. Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG), HVAC (Heating, Ventilation and Air-Conditioning), Machine Tools, Metalworking and Metallurgy, Aboriginal, First Nations & Native American. Seems like everybody's got an answer and nobody's got a plan. Finally, in a brief coda, Hillman talks about possibly making another record and working in a childrens book, and displays the 1924 Gibson F-5 Lloyd Loar mandolin Stephen Stills gave to him at the start of the Manassas sessions in late 1971. Among Connies many accomplishments include co-producing Elton Johns Troubadour Benefit Concert in 1974 and his historic concert at Dodger Stadium in 1975. She has, Stephen. Conniefirst joined forces with Elton John in 1973 as theExecutive Vice President of his Rocket Record Company. * rounder.com (label) Print Headline: The Byrds' Chris Hillman on fame, faith, music. George Nikas, Renee Pappas. Turn! didnt sound like anything else on the radio when it hit No. Hillman also met music-business professional Connie Pappas, who he married in 1979. I still work with John Jorgenson and Herb Pedersen and Jay Dee Maness. A time to kill, a time to heal. Hillman: Sure! See Photos. 2023 www.knoxnews.com. Hillman wasn't a Christian at that time but found it natural to use religious language when asking big questions, since that was normal in bluegrass and country culture. I did not expect that. But Tom was the producer. or. We didn't say, 'We can't do a Christian song.'". "CHRIS HILLMAN is one of the most cordial, easy-going and colorful guests to have appeared on . An Atlantic event, including Kathy Acquaviva. Connie Pappas. The company has concluded those operations and will continue to diversify its business activities, which include the expansion of Ms. Hillman's collegiate lecture series on women in today's music industry. Hillman also met music-business professional Connie Pappas, who he married in 1979. While theyre out there on the road, they start bringing me up and thats where Herb gets off the road and says, Call Tom, call Tom., And it turned out Herb really ran the musical part of the studio, and organizing the guys. Chris Hillman is, of course, a beloved musician. Hillman: Well, were both extremely sarcastic wiseguys, California wiseguys; hes a Northern Californian and Im a Southern. Terry Mattingly leads GetReligion.org and lives in Oak Ridge. Members can instantly access 500k+ Dates of Live Bands on Tour, Artist Avails, News Archives, and UNLIMITED Box Office without worrying about Pay-More Restrictions! Special thanks again to Connie Pappas-Hillman, Cary Baker/Conqueroo, Rory Aronsky, and Pete Frame. And like I said, the one band that we parted company, really, I actually did say, Stephen, I said, I think its time for us to take a break. Do you have a favorite memory from those days? Then his fathers suicide rocked their world and forced the familys move to Los Angeles. Then his father's suicide rocked their world and forced the family's move to Los Angeles. Time Between opens with a scene connecting these themes, when their California home was threatened by a 2017 brush fire. Copyright 2023, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Inc. It wasnt like we were going, Oh, lets make it real slick. We played from our hearts, and it was just a great band. Thanks again for the encore. Hear Chris share his amazing story in his own words, including his journey to Orthodox Christianity and his fantastic 40+ year marriage to Connie Pappas Hillman, a dedicated Orthodox Christian and storied music industry professional in her own right. While we were up at Jim Guercios Caribou Ranch recording and he had started the Heathen Defense League because Al [Perkins] and Richie [Furay] were over in the corner. Tell us about your experience as a woman in the music industry. Were not getting on the radio as quickly as we were, and it happens. Love to you and the family. Autographed copies are available at chrishillman.com. Connie Hillman. Hillman: I was overwhelmed. The Byrds' classic "Turn! Shes been your rock, basically, for the last 40-something years. Previous Next Hillmanwasn't a Christian at that time but found it natural to use religious language when asking big questions, since that was normal in bluegrass and country culture. The late Tom Petty said: "Chris was a true innovator the man who invented country rock. His first music industry gig was as an Associate Editor atCash Box magazine in Hollywood in 1975. Neither these AP materials nor any portion thereof may be stored in a computer except for personal and noncommercial use. [goes to take out the mandolin] Excuse my back and all that, but can you see this? I was making choices that contributed to my restlessness and unhappiness. Herb Alpert, Artie Wayne, Jerry Moss. Hillman: He had too much going against him to really become successful, and Ill just say this and this is from my dear friend Dwight Yoakam, who said to me one day, he says, You know, you cant be a country singer with a trust fund, and I said, Wow. Peeples: Now, youve said numerous times in interviews with me and also in the book that Sweetheart of the Rodeo was not your favorite Byrds album, but you dont say what was. The rest is music history. Hillman: Oh, yeah! Copyright 2022 CelebrityAccess. At the same time, he was surrounded by talented Christians, including pedal-steel maestroAl Perkins, Eagle Bernie Leadon, songwriting partner Steve Hill and Byrds co-founder Roger McGuinn, who had become an evangelical Christian. He was one of the best I worked with. Crew (Special) Two Rooms: Tribute to Elton John & Bernie Taupin (1991) . She was appointed Executive Vice President of John Reid Enterprises, co-managing Elton John, Bernie Taupin, Queen, Kiki Dee and Carole Bayer Sager. When she was appointedVP of Rocket Music publishing company and VP of Poptropolis Enterprises, she began overseeing television development for The Hudson Brothers. He plays the best rhythm guitar ever. Log In. I gotta tell you, youre right: The Rice, Rice, Hillman & Pedersen, for lack of a better name, the albums are pretty good. I sent them a book, cause Im very close with her husband Cactus. A time to laugh, a time to weep.. After becoming an evangelical, Hillman joined his wife in Orthodox Christianity in 1997. Hillman: Thanks, Stephen. white church, Black church, the music all came from church," Hillman said. What will you two be cooking up in the years to come especially now that the Coronavirus has shifted how people gather. Then, in 1982, Connie Hillman formed her own US-based company, Constant Communications Corporation. A time to be born, a time to die. Connie says shell be working with her husband, Rock & Roll Hall of Famer, Chris Hillman. Thats why I say: Emmylou Harriss first big breakout hit was If I Could Only Win Your Love.If you hear Herb and her singing that, my God, hes good on that. 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