These things had huge doors, elaborate engravings, complex designs, and must have been an amazing sight in their time. Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of Gods chosen prophets and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. The Aad and Thamud were both located in the northwestern part of modern day Saudi Arabia near the border of Jordan. So you could see the people therein fallen as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees. It was these nine families that cause much of the problems for Salih. God knows best. Jumping the gun, 2. Akkadians Hence, the Prophet (s) and his companions did visit the land of Thamud and reflected upon the ruins of many idolatrous peoples found there, but they did not claim that any of these specific artifacts belonged to the first tribe of Thamud from the Quran. What? After the Arab conquest of Persia in the 7th century, many Arab tribes settled in different parts of Iran, notably Khurasan and Ahwaz, it is the Arab tribes of Khuzestan that have retained their identity in language and culture to the present day while other Arabs especially in Khurasan were slowly Persianised. The scripts used in these inscriptions is mostly Hismaic and Safaitic writing systems native to Arabia, and quite distinct from the one later adopted for writing the Quran. If not, then why do we need to find the remains of Thamud? However, now none may be visible and what is visible now are those made centuries later. From the overall area of a few miles, that particular area of a few feet had Thamudic remains. I believe carving out structures in hills and mountains may have been a common practice within the ancient Arabia and its surroundings based on both the Biblical and Quranic accounts. The Quran mentions the Thamud as an example of an ancient polytheistic people who were destroyed by God for their sins. It had no written law, but the tribal leader played the role of ruler. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. But given the possibility that these ruins could have once been created, either completely or partially, by the Thamud and taken later by the Edomites in Petra and then the Nabateans, who inscribed graffiti on themtheir inscriptions are exactly thator even carved out recesses inside of them, there isnt an unsurmountable problem. There has come to you clear evidence from your Lord. The word atharan or assar as loosely written in Urdu literally means effects or reactions or remnants left behind as an escape of a crime scene where clues or signs point to. What else do you have in mind And Ad and Thamud-it must be clear to you from their dwelling places! Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih), Forty Hadith al-Nawawi in English and Arabic, Al-Aqidah al-Tahawiyyah in English and Arabic, Forty Hadith on Purification of the Heart. The tribes of 'Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. As also 'Ad and Thamud, and the Companions of the Rass, and many a generation between them. ** For what purpose is the tale of 'd and Thamd? Although, implausible, but not impossible. Suppose if Nuh ( ) came 40,000 years ago or even 100,000 years ago and the few hundred or a few thousand people were destroyed by the flood, then it would not be difficult to believe that human population reached in millions, further subdividing into nations, communities, and tribes, after thousands of years. Their destruction was like a forest being mowed down by giant machines. and the pride of your heart have deceived you, Witch out of these 7 does it sound more what the verses are saying or does it mean something other than these 7 And perhaps, over the generations, these people developed their own magnificent society with its own special hallmarks and characteristics. He said, O my people, worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him. [25] The Arab tribes of Maqil migrated to the Maghreb a century later and even immigrated southwards to Mauritania. The Thamud ( Arabic: , romanized : amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation [1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. They built buildings on the land and also carved them in hills. The Nabateans have not left us with any records, thus inscriptions become the primary dating of these structures. Even though they built great sculptures, they werent extremely sophistated people. If we try to discuss the lineage of the Arabs well be here forever. It is possible that Edomites and or Thamud did carve out structures in the region, Nabateans, who came later, were inspired at some point during their history by the structures and proceeded to make a few of their own. Several other inscriptions bearing the namesAad and Iram have been discovered in Jordan. [28] A large Arab migration to Mesopotamia followed the Muslim conquest of Mesopotamia in 634, which saw an increase in the culture and ideals of the Bedouins in the region. Its not an easy read, especially as most of the stories leave the reader perplexed in terms of their relevancy to ones personal life or attainment of anything didactic that enriches or nurtures a relationship with God. Then remember the favors of Allah and do not commit abuse on the earth, spreading corruption. [7:73. As for option 2, we know next to nothing about the Thamud. Another inscription from the same temple mentions Aad by name, and reads, by Ghawth son of Aslah son of Thokam and he constructed the temple of Allt, of the people of Ad. We simply do not know the true date and timeline for when the first Thamud of the Quran existed and, therefore, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to accurately identify the ruins of such an ancient civilization that lived thousands years ago. Therefore, the Aad were a society that sprung up from the survivors of the flood, perhaps some of the same people who rode in the Ark with Prophet Noah (AS). The leftover of Ad were taken and built over by Thamud. Yet as we have seen, the Quran does not claim any of these specific sites belong to the ancient tribe of Thamud per se. Based on the Quranic and Biblical evidence, and the lack of archeological evidence which can conclusively show that every single structure that is excavated, and those that will be excavated in the future, are all Nabatean in origin, I believe carving out structures on hills and mountains originated with the Thamud, which was later adopted by the Edomites, which later still, was adopted by the Nabateans. Both. _ Story of Aad _tafseer. There is a popular historical show in Saudi Arabia with Eid Al-Yahya where they visit the area of Madain Saleh and he definitely makes a credible case showing that Madain Saleh has indications of being built by Thamud, but being used and completed by the Nabateans. You have no god other than Him. . Also if it is in the present it makes it sound there buildings were like brand new like not destroyed etc, This is it then Im done but thank you very much for answering my questions jazzakkallah, 3. [78] Their Messengers came to them with Clear Signs. Having failed to save his people, Salih warned that they would be destroyed after three days. They also fell to idol-worshipping. The second lesson is to watch out for the signs in our lives. Their responses, while snarky, were fairly simple. [18] According to the Quran, the Thamud were the successors of a previous nation called the d, who had also been destroyed for their sins. As their material wealth increased so, too, did their evil ways while their virtue decreased. Continue the discussion, Ok thanks so what does atharan mean in classical arabic or can it mean effects and results in classical arabic as well can it mean made as well as left jazzakkallah, And you said that there remains will show they once were better then you do you mean like if throw there might only be a few bricks left those bricks will still show they once were better because of the size of those bricks and how they were carved and the same with broken pillars even this they are broken the size of the circle shaped and the way they are cut they show that they were once supier and still are by the relics than you is that what you mean jazzakkallah by there relics show they once were better even there not that great now like old roman and egyptian bricks not standing but lieing down decaying but we can still tell they built better stuff like all I have to do is find one large bone of a dinosaur to know they are big that I dont need to find a lot of bones to know that is that what you mean jazzakkallah, I mean witch of these sound more like what the verses are saying 1. The tribe refused to heed him, saying that Salih was merely a mortal, and demanded a sign from God. Sargon defeated these tribes, according to his Annals, and had them forcibly deported to Samaria. This is an odd conclusion. Jazak Allah, Ok thanks jazzakkallah that about it thanks but out of the 8 theorys I put down before witch one would you pick to be the best interpretation thanks and when you say (archaic) do you mean that are civilization is better then the people of AD relics or the other way round that there relics are better than are houses or do you just mean there relics are better then the mekkahans houses and madian houses etc I didnt really understand you by that bit but thanks for your helping jazzakkallah. Yet how can we prove that there was a Prophet sent to them since Allah SWT does not punish a nation without sending one? Or just left relics in land 6. Now we dont see the remains of Nuhs AS people now do we? Instead, the camel is killed by a certain "accursed Amar", and the camel's foal stands upon a rock and curses Thamud, leading to the tribe's annihilation except for a single lame woman who is spared to spread the message of the destruction. 1. 'Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of God's chosen prophets - and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. And remember when He made you successors after the Aad and settled you in the land?Chapter 7, Verse 74. As is the usual case, the Christians are, 1. The Prophet ()s custom was always to point out to his Companions the geographical locations and landmarks connected with previous Divine Envoys. The Quran and quoted Hadiths indicate that the buildings of the Thamud were visible at the time of the Prophet () as signs to the Arabs. Prophet Muhammad () descended from Ismail ( ), http://www.imgrum.org/media/1483126817820752683_724804649, http://saudi-archaeology.com/sites/madain-saleh/, The blind companion and killing of the concubine, Islamic identity of Rm (Rome) and Romans II, The Benefits of the Presence of Ambiguous Verses in the Quran, Islamic Stance on Astrology and its related Sciences. [21] Syrians who belonged to Monophysitic denominations welcomed the peninsular Arabs as liberators. 5. Re. what enemy, ever so warlike and powerful, will venture to invade my land, or besiege me in my strong hold? The word Thamud appears in the Annals of the Assyrian king Sargon II (r. 722705 BCE), inscribed at Dur-Sharrukin. Having similar names doesnt mean much Imagine if in a thousand years, the United States is a completely different landscape, much of it devoid of inhabitants and all of the history associated with its people are lost. What do we intend to get out of the statement that they were more in number and strength in what they left behind. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Now are they fully destroyed now over the 1400 years or are mixed with the newer nabataens, True but many people say when it says travel the land it is normally speaking about ad and thamud because they are the closest cant atharan mean just marks not marks left behind like 30:50 when it says effects it doesnt mean left behind effects because allah would mean left behind so what can atharan thanks for replying back all the time, Because even if these verses are saying thamud and AD it is saying there better than there houses but how can they if they were in advance state of decay because we cant see ad houses left so they had to be in advance stat of decay so if they were how could they be better then there houses because these verse would be more talking about ad more than thamud any hence in the verse they were mightier because ad called them selfs mightier, Arabic language has been heavily borrowed from by the Urdu language spoken widely in Pakistan and India. In fact, we even know the scripts they used! And of course, they were also polytheists. As menitoned earlier, the Aad were a strong, brutish, and conquering people. Qur'anic accounts of Salih always follow those of Hud. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Banu. 63-65. 74], , And certainly did the companions of Thamud deny the messengers. The Thamd were known from contemporary sources to have occupied parts of the Hejaz region, and later Islamic tradition holds that they settled on the slopes of Mount Athlab. of 'Ad and Thamud by name. One Who missed the Friday Prayer should pray Zuhr: Moving the Finger in Tashahhud : Fatwa Collection_ 40 short hadiths filled with wisdom. They are called "Skulls" because it is thought that the skull is the most important part of the body, and the majority of Arab tribes are descended from these major tribes.[37][38][39][40][41]. and make your home on the heights, But certainly, there is some potential that something like this may have happened. A number of them branched out, which later became independent tribes (sub-tribes). For a few reasons. Q.28:58 is general: And how many a city have We destroyed that was insolent in its [way of] living, and those are their dwellings which have not been inhabited after them except briefly. Thereupon Allahs Messenger () commanded that the water collected for drinking should be spilt and the flour should be given to the camels and commanded them that the water for drinking should be taken from that well where the she-camel used to come. 3. Is there a possibility that these remaining tombs (around 1400 years back, were more in number and had dwellings as well) were inscribed upon by the Nabataeans as has already been proposed and I came across a while back, Assalam alikum what about 40:21 and 40:82 if someone could explain these verses, Walikum Assalam, The general consensus among 14th-century Arab genealogists is that Arabs are of three kinds: The Hawazin tribe and the Quraysh tribe are considered Adnani Arabs. Allah doesnt need you. Assalamualaikum I dont believe 27:50-53 is necessarily referring to their houses existing at the time of the Prophet SAW when they tell us to behold the sign therein. 62-63]. Syed Suleman Nadvi discusses this in Tarikh Ard al-Quran vol.2. Some people think petra was thamud do you think so jazzakkallah, But the main question for me is the first one number 1 the rest are just side questions but number 1 is the main one for me what I would like a detailed response the rest are more of yes or no qustions jazzakkallah sorry to keep bothering you, But I do agree with your article its just getting more information thats all jazzakkallah so I know how to answer this question jazzakkallah, This is part of qustion 4 do you think 27:52 is talking about there dwellings in the mountions or on the plains or both and does 27:52 mean there dwellings collapsed fallen because if yes 89:9 makes it sound like it is standing that there are more of the buildings showing then just partially but more showing of the buildings so how do we explain this jazzakkallah, Sorry for them being spaced out just put them together but 8. also if there buildings were very big there had to be more left of the buildings remains in the time of the prophet then just partially shouldnt there or not because if they were big there should of been more left or not do you think jazzakkallah how would we explain this jazzakkallah but like I said question 1 is the main one, 9. I would rather think that the Thamud were more like two or three hundred years after the Aad. It is addressed there In sura 15, there seems to be a chronological order: At first the story of Adam (as) is mentioned (26-50), then the story of Abraham (as) and Lot (as) (51-77), then the story of the people of al-Rass,i.e. So away with Thamud! [10], Arab Islamic sources state that the Thamud were an early Arab tribe that had gone extinct in ancient days. We have to be open to the idea that a person living thousands of years ago will have a different concept of a place of dwelling than we, in the 21st century, do. Routledge. you who say to yourself, [19], To the Thamd, We sent their brother, li. [13] Robath is likely the ancient name of modern al-Ruwfa. So bring on whatever punishment you say is coming to us.. The pagan Arabs were acquainted with their existence but nothing more is known about them. In addition to building gigantic structures, the Aad were also conquerors. (3). This is the she-camel of Allah [sent] to you as a sign. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. And We saved those who believed and had Taqwa. Theres no real reason to mention them lastly, except they came after al-Rass and they are also included in this chronological order as well. Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). The Edomites can also be a separate nation and through the passage time they shared history, tradition, and custom with the remnants of the Thamud. You can find the first onehere), Thamud were before time of the Israelites they were same time as the Assyrians who they mixed with. Thamud were destroyed And their responses reflected their advancement in knowledge. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Bani, Banu. Aben Ezra thinks that caph, the note of similitude, is wanting; and that the sense is, thou thoughtest that Mount Seir could secure thee, as they that dwell in the clefts of a rock: whose habitation [is] high; upon high rocks and mountains, such as Mount Seir was, where Esau dwelt, and his posterity after, him. It describes what they used to do i.e. And this advancement led to a stratified society of haves and have nots. The Quran tells us that the people of Ad started to build altars on the high places, and even strongholds in the mountains. He replaced the people of the Flood with the Aad and then replaced the Aad with the Thamud. Heavy contact with Romans resulted in us having a pretty decent record of its territories and people. There are countless artists, pundits, and celebrities who mock Allah, His Messenger (pbuh), and Islam. Badawi writes: [li] and his followers left the doomed area just before Gods punishment befell them. I will post the links here for now. But before we get to that, lets analyze their responses. These Thamud built gigantic castles, hundreds of feet high, and they literally carved them right into the sides of mountains. According to Saudi-archeology website, an academic website aimed at archiving the rock images and providing archeological information on them, the structure may have been used for holding sacred feasts. We have a good perspective of the size of these supposed tombs in this picture, as the faade has been destroyed. Allah sent the Prophet Hud to give the Aad the message of Islam. Revisionists are conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories sell so in order to make quick money and get fame, some western pseudo scholars propagate this absurd conspiracy theory. According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. The Thamd are infrequently mentioned in contemporary indigenous Arabian sources, although two Safaitic inscriptions carved some time between the first century BCE and the fourth century CE refer to "the year of the war between Gm and the tribe of Thamd [snt rb gm l md]". They may have even intermingled to the point of losing any distinction along ethnic lines as there is no good reason or evidence to preclude the idea that the Thamud also ventured and lived in Petra and the surrounding areas. They may believe in Allah and may even worship Him in some ways. 4. By about 850 BCE, a complex network of settlements and camps was established. This genealogical relationship is further reflected in the theory . The hadiths show that there were wells present in that particular spot attributed to the Thamud. However this would not explain why the Prophet () referred to the houses as Thamuds dwellings. Most decent Muslims would never do such a thing, but there are many misguided people who do. We should look at the original Arabic for word though to fully understand. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. [22], Thamudic is an aggregate name for some 15,000 inscriptions from all over Arabia, which have not been properly studied and identified as separate languages. Yes both Ad and thamud left dwelling places as opposed to some other Nations mentioned in the Quran but again the reference is generic to many other Nations not mentioned in the book that came to other parts of the world etc. These Arab tribes have played a role in the demographic changes in the Arab world through the increase of the Arab population,[8] as well as the ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and genetic Arabization of the Levant and North Africa.[9]. In the historical and archaeological record, both were contemporaries, but by the time of the Prophet in the 7th century AD, they had become little more than a distant memory, and their ruins, places of myth and legend. There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him! A Reminder of the Story of 'Aad and Thamud by Ibn Kathir, taken from Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Abridged), Volume 8 Darussalam 2000 As for `Ad, they were arrogant in the land without right and they said: 'Who is mightier than us in strength?' See they not that Allah Who created them was mightier in strength than them. Some of these questions were sincere, but most of the time they were just trying to trip him up. Furthermore, there is also proof that they had some elements of true Islam in their faith. Perhaps these survivors were Prophet Hud (AS) and his followers. Even if the prophet saw these exact structures which are visible today and we can, hypothetically, prove beyond a shadow of doubt that no one ever lived in them, and he took them to be the dwellings of the Thamud, that isnt a major problem. Look, it doesnt matter if you warn us or dont warn us, were not going to listen to you. (LogOut/ 12. I just had the chance to look at the comments now and I dont seem to understand the problem here. And [We destroyed] 'Aad and Thamud and the companions of the well and many generations between them. According to Arab traditions, tribes are divided into different divisions called Arab skulls ( ), which is a term given to a group of tribes of the Arabian Peninsula, which are described in the traditional custom of strength, abundance, victory, and honor. Then do you see any remains?Chapter 69, Verses 6 8. [17] The Muslim governor of Egypt encouraged the migration of tribes from the Arabian Peninsula to Egypt to increase the Muslim population in the region and to strengthen his regime by enlisting warrior tribesmen to his forces, encouraging them to bring their families and entire clans. They were a little more inquisitive (at least at first). Also bonus when you say there buildings were not on the surface what do you mean do you mean the outside was gone but you could see the inside like a cave do you mean that, 15. Heres how Allah describes their punishment. 7. The Fatimid era was the peak of Bedouin Arab tribal migrations to Egypt. I hope the Christians, after having read this, will decide to do whats ethical and moral. Then bring us what you promise us if you are among the truthful.Chapter 7, Verse 70, It is all the same to us if you advise us are not from among the advisors. Nothing but solid rock underlies the rest of the facades. 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